请推鉴一个Team Collaboration 的软件环境

03-01-02 Jevang
前提是FREE, WEB BASED
希望功能比较全面:
Application Lifecycle Management( integration with CVS, bug tracking, release, patching )
Knowledge Management( doc, search,disussion forum etc)
Project Management( status tracking, plan )
Customer support( self service, customer profile, case mgmt )
因MAIN USERS 为内部人员及客户,系统对SCALABILITY要求不是很高.

Banq and everyone here, if you have some good experience with such kind of package, please advice.
It seems Jive is good at forum and KB, is it good enough to provide most of features list above?

Sourceforge is a good environment, but since my project is not an open sourced, they won't host it for me.

Thanks in advance
-Wanchun

wys1978
2003-01-02 12:36

Jevang
2003-01-02 13:19
Hi,
thanks for the tip, I read thru the "sitemgr" description briefly, but I think it's too general to server my needs. What I am looking for is a group ware primarily for development organization, easy setup so it should have most features ready out of box.

Try to save 2 cents
-Wanchun

banq
2003-01-02 17:17
这是想要的吗?

http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/?clicked=jdigest

banq
2003-01-02 17:32
这个算吗?

http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/

Jevang
2003-01-03 00:17
Thanks Banq, I will check the two you mentioned. I found a package called TOTUS(www.totus.org), not bad, but it has not forum support.



-Wanchun

Jevang
2003-01-03 01:22
To Banq,
JIRA is a BTS like Bugzilla, Maven is more for build process, these are important features but even the combined of these two still missing some important one: team forums, doc management with assoicated with project.

Maybe adding TOTUS makes a more complete solution.

Thanks again
-Wanchun

iceant
2003-01-03 10:25
I like maillist more than forum.
Maillist can post messages to all member of developing team.
By forum, you need to open an browser and visit it.

Sourceforge is the best.

banq
2003-01-03 13:35
看来,这是个新的idea, 我们可以来自己开发这个project
如何?

实际上,这可能也是一个open resource的拼装。

iceant
2003-01-03 13:46
TO:Banq

Yes, I have this idea for a long time.(About 2 years ago!) ^_^

如果打算做,我愿意参加 ^_^

但是要先有好的,激烈的需求讨论与分析!

Jevang
2003-01-03 13:50
I did a search on google, too many softwares pop up for this category or subcategories, free or with hefty price. So I am thinking if we start another open source for this purpose, it may serve us well, but how it stand out of the peers?
Seperate topic, I am not sure open source project can really take off in China:
1> Do we get enough government sponsorship?
2> ARe there lots of institutes, colleges involved, either as contributors or product consumers?
3> In general, are cooperations willing to pay big bucks for services?

Or maybe just because my coin stuffed head can't recoganize the value of open source movement?
-Wanchun

Jevang
2003-01-03 14:04
ICEANT, BANQ
凭你们的水平,如果真有心做点啥,大家何不选个更有价值的东西干一把.

I should change my ID Jevang( java evangelist) to Coin Head ;)

-Wanchun

iceant
2003-01-03 14:06
TO: Jevang
OpenSource 运动的开展将为一个国家的技术水平提高带来深远的影响。
在国外,很多 OpenSource 的项目是由学校的老师,教授,学生在开发和维护。例如 OpenEJB 的主要开发者,都是大学教授和学生。
在国内,因为学校老师的水平实在是差(我对国内学校的水平有偏见,也许不对!),他们只想着升级,想着剽窃别人的成果,只会写些分析式的文章,很少有人能站出来领导一个项目,从实践中获取知识并运用到教学中去。

学校里的学生,因为老师水平有限,在学校的几年里根本学不到什么东西,更何况,国内教育界的教材实在不敢让人恭维。学生出来以后,什么都做不了。

真正想要发展,想要提高,就需要大量的OpenSource 项目,让更多的年轻人发挥他们的想法,发挥他们的创造力,并从规范的项目中得到锻炼。
我一直认为,中国的软件业终有一天会这样:
当一群年轻的技术人员走到一起时,可以很骄傲地谈论他们在各个出名的 OpenSource Project 中所做出的贡献。

做为公司,可以从OpenSource 项目中获取新的养分。获得很好的思想,并做改进,使之商业化。

Jevang 说得不错,OpenSource 其实需要一些资金来运作。在国内现在还没有这样的条件。

Jevang
2003-01-03 14:27
我想成功的软件团体应是:
生财有道:有拳头产品
博采众长:
礼尚往来:得益于OPEN SOURCE 产品,if有创新,应CONTRIBUTE BACK
高效运作:if just driven by opportunity, a company may grow big by luck, but without efficient operation management( market, sales, development, QA, support), growth won't sustain in long run.

-Wanchun

iceant
2003-01-03 15:08
礼尚往来:得益于OPEN SOURCE 产品,if有创新,应CONTRIBUTE BACK

这一条是我最欣赏的,特别是 Apple 的 WebObjects 开发人员。
他们将 OpenEJB 集成进产品中,但是,他们还将集成时的改进 Contribute back 到 Project 中。

我很敬佩这种精神!!!

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